Audio: Radio Host Dana Loesch Compares Sexual Intercourse to Trans-Vaginal Ultrasound
Last week, a Virginia state House committee approved a bill requiring women to get trans-vaginal ultrasound before they can have an abortion. Because this type of ultrasound requires vaginal penetration with a foreign object, some critics call it "state-sponsored rape."
CNN contributor Dana Loesch claims this procedure with a foreign object is no different than penetration that occurred during consensual intercourse that “resulted in the pregnancy" (audio below).
Loesch said on her St. Louis radio show: "That’s the big thing that progressives are trying to say, that it’s rape and so on and so forth. There were individuals saying, “Oh what about the Virginia rape? The rapes that, the forced rapes of women who are pregnant?” What? Wait a minute, they had no problem having similar to a trans-vaginal procedure when they engaged in the act that resulted in their pregnancy."
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When did conservatives decide that the government could mandate certain medical procedures?
At the same time they decided that Posse Comitatus was no longer relevant and that "the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper".
If freedom means anything, it is the liberty to tell others what they do not want to hear.
"Rick Chance said: "So when the doctor sticks his finger up my ass to check for prostate cancer, am I being raped?"
The difference is, you requested the exam, it was not demanded of you by someone else. If you've been drinking some night and mistakenly go into a gay bar and one of the other patrons, fingers your virgin ass or fondles your package, how would you feel (pun intended) about that? What if you did it to a woman, would she be entitled to object or prosecute?
Rule one for being human, "Don't be a dumb-ass."
If freedom means anything, it is the liberty to tell others what they do not want to hear.
Also I'm a little unclear why it would matter if I were drunk or not. I accidentally went into a gay bar when I was sober once.
Just to be clear, you are comparing getting molested at a bar to a legitimate medical procedure right?
Rick Chance said: "So when the doctor sticks his finger up my ass to check for prostate cancer, am I being raped?"
If the legislators in Washington State passed a law making men's access to healthcare contingent upon submitting to a digital rectal prostate exam every six months, and stating that no insurance would be required to provide you with healthcare coverage if you refused a rectal prostate exam, I have a feeling you might see that mandatory prostate exam as anal rape, rather than a voluntary medical procedure. But you tell me.
It's rape if someone jams a foreign object in your body without your permission.
State-mandated rape. I am so angry these days. So very filled with rage at this assault on women's rights to their own bodies. I need to take a break, preferably on another planet not infested with insane hominids.
Bill Fabian wrote: "Ms. Loesch is making the point that a women who has sex, gets pregnant, uses abortion as birth control, shouldn't fell outrage about a trans-vaginal ultrasound before killing their fetus. Evidently, Ms. Loesch thinks killing a human fetus is more worthy of outrage than an ultrasound."
That's the real issue, of course -- whether or not, and at what point or not, an unborn fetus is indeed a human being. If a fetus is a human being, then the issue of protection of a human's "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" enters.
Apparently Loesch is certain an unborn fetus, from the moment of conception, is a human being. However, apart from "special revelation from God" which the religious and supernaturalists allege, certainty of how early and at what point an unborn fetus is a human being is scientifically impossible for any of us. No matter how loudly some insist otherwise, the available biological evidence to date remains inconclusive. Perhaps at some future date, research will definitively answer this question and legislation could then be appropriately applied, but until then, each individual should be permitted to make the difficult choice about abortion for her or his situation.
Loesch may be zealous to protect what she believes is an unborn human, but her tactic in this case makes her ludicrous. Equating coerced penetration with consensual intercourse is juvenile if not discreditable to her cause.
You make great sense. Thank you for posting a reply that contains facts and rational statements. You'll take a lot of abuse from the religious reich but I suspect it won't be the first time for you. :D
If freedom means anything, it is the liberty to tell others what they do not want to hear.
That's it. I'm getting my tubes tied, thus dumbing down future generations even more.